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Sad news! jammr will shut down on April 30th, 2025. This post explains what
will happen and why jammr is shutting down.

After April 30th, 2025 the jammr application and the website, including forum,
user account pages, and recorded jams, will cease to operate. It will not be
possible to jam using the application anymore.

Premium subscriptions will not be charged after January 31st, 2025. If you had
a subscription, your Premium features will remain active for free until
shutdown as a thank you for your support.

What steps should I take?

1. Download any recorded jams you'd like to save from https://jammr.net/recorded-jams/ before April 30th, 2025.
2. Discuss alternative online jamming platforms where you will migrate with your jamming buddies. You can do this on the https://forum.jammr.net/, on the https://discord.gg/xnywFszu, or in the chat during a jam session.
3. After jammr shuts down, uninstall the jammr application from your computer.

Why is jammr shutting down?

I've had the pleasure of jamming with some of you for many years and want to
express my apologies for disrupting your online jamming and the community that
has grown. I started building jammr over 12 years ago and have run it mostly by
myself throughout its lifetime. In recent years it's been a struggle to keep on
top of the operational tasks while also making progress towards the vision of
an online jamming platform that I had in mind all those years ago. Providing
the level of service that users deserve requires more time than I have
available. Having considered the options, I have decided to shut down jammr in
an orderly fashion instead of letting it fall into disrepair.

A heartfelt thank you to you for using jammr!

Questions and comments welcome.

Edited stefanha (Jan. 31, 2025 20:43:43)

This is horrible news! Is there anything the community can do to help keep Jammr running?

oh no im so :(:(:(:(:(:( right now to hear this i cant imagine what its going to be like without jammr
and the wonderfull people ive meet along the way.

If there is anything i can help with in order to help jammr continue running
just drop me a message in discord

jammr could be transitioned over to a new team. The technologies involved are Django and Twisted (Python), Qt (C++), Redis, and Linux containers. There are recurring costs for server hosting, object storage, code signing certificates, and domain names.

If this is something you'd like to be involved with, please reply and we can discuss it.

I received questions about continuing jammr via email. Sharing my reply here for others who may be interested:

If you want to jam with a group of your friends you can run wahjamsrv on a server and connect with the wahjam client (https://github.com/wahjam/wahjam). This is the open source software that powers jammr, minus the website and platform (recorded jams, private jams, auto-scaling public jam servers). Wahjam supports NINJAM mode where it runs without the jammr platform. This is the easiest option if you want your own jam server without the overhead of running the entire platform. I still recommend checking out other NINJAM-based software because it could save you from running your own server and compiling clients.

If you want to run the jammr platform, then there are additional pieces. The website is written in Django (Python) and uses the PostgreSQL database. The platform uses Twisted (Python) to manage jam servers and Redis as a message queue and key-value store to communicate between servers. Everything can run on a single server in containers if you want to start small, and it also scales to many servers in order to spread out the jam servers and recorded jam processing. The jammr website and platform are proprietary.

Finally, in addition to running the platform, there is the possibility of continuing jammr.net itself with its current domain name, users, etc. I'm open to passing jammr on to a new team. I need to know a bit about the team's abilities, preferences, and resources in order to find the exact shape and format for doing this.

Good day Stefanha. I would like to express my sincere appologies for the very personal decision to shut down. I respect you as a creator with the vehicle you chosen to build and maintain for 12 years. I am expressing my interest in the proposal offered. I live in the US and would not be against a meeting in your city or mine.

Best regards,
waynematabar45 aka boogiedown

Hi waynematabar45,
It would be nice to meet after all these years of jamming together! Let's have a call because we are not located close enough to make travel practical. I'll send you the details in an email so we can find a time.

I sent it to the email address you used to register your waynematabar45 jammr account.

Just had a call with waynematabar45 about keeping jammr going.

We're looking for a few jammr users with skills running online communities, building websites, and developing software that can take over. A team of volunteers that runs jammr for the whole community so that I can hand over the keys.

I think we can do this if we find volunteers. Please reply here if you'd like to be part of it.

ok in willing to volunteer my time to help this wonderful comunity
ive had a little exposure to web design and some programming experience mainly .net
i used to maintain windows mail and fileservers i also got a bit of experience with databases
im willing to learn some new stuff if needed but i would see my role as more of a support role
helping users with issues reguarding conectivity of equipment and helping maintain the forums